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Post by Vicky on Dec 11, 2008 18:33:32 GMT -5
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Post by hermin1 on Dec 12, 2008 2:10:44 GMT -5
vicky:
try using the Langie spelling.
I found him in the 1880 Pembina Census at age 47with wife Nancy Age38
children:Francis 18, Alexis 16,Eliza 14,Moses 12, Josseph 10,ernestine 8,Napoleon 6,Archibala 2,Solomon 3/12. John and nancy list ed as born Dakota, and their parents born Dakota. the kids also born Dakota.
You might also try the 1850 Minn. Territorial Census, and the 1860 Minn. Territorial census. also try Dakota Territory Censues.
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Post by hermin1 on Dec 12, 2008 2:12:30 GMT -5
i forgot, John was born around 1829-1833.
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Post by Vicky on Dec 12, 2008 10:59:38 GMT -5
Thanks hermin1. Yes, the Langie and Longie names are interchangable. I am pretty sure the Pembina dude is a different John. Thus my dilemma.
John on the 1880 census in Pembina. born c. 1833 has 10 children with Nancy.
But John on the 1900 census was b. 1837 and has been married to Jennie for 36 years. He married her at age 27.
So these are 2 different John's. Unless Nancy changed her name to Jennie. She is Genvieve on the 1887 SW census. :-(
Any descendants here???
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Post by Vicky on Dec 12, 2008 15:44:28 GMT -5
hermin, or anyone with censuses  - Does anyone have a better scan of this page of the 1850 Pembina census (MN Terry)? I am looking at #166. This name is always transcribed as Langer, but I wonder if this is my elusive Langie family? It appears to be a mother- Marguritte age 50, with a bunch of kids and maybe some grandchildren. There is also a Langie family at Big Stone Lake, but I really believe this is John Langie who farmed at Lake Tewaukon. I sure would love to see a clear image of this page.  I would be so grateful also, to receive a better image of this page. The last name is Genvieve (Jennie) Lawrence- John Langie's wife. (1850 MN Terr. census- Pembina)  Thanks kids! ;D |
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Post by Jimmy on Dec 12, 2008 16:48:20 GMT -5
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Post by Vicky on Dec 12, 2008 17:51:05 GMT -5
Wow, they're clear! Thanks Jimmy! I'm just not sure about that Langer name. I guess it might be Langie.  OK, everybody who LOVES a good puzzle (I know you're out there...), here ya go- 1880 Fed. Census- Pembina John Langie 47 Nancy, wife 38 Francis 18 Alexis 16 Eliza 14 Moses 12 Joseph 10 Ernestine 8 Napoleon 6 Archibald 2 Solomon 8 mo. 1887 SW census- John Longie 48 Genvieve 36 Elinor 15 Thomas 12 John 1 OK, here's the deal. If this is the same family, the children Elinor and Thomas would appear on the 1880 census. Elinor would be about 8 and Thomas, about 5. 1900 Fed. census- John 62 m. 36 yrs. Jennie 52 m. 36 yrs. John is now 13 Margaret is 10 (This is Maggie who married Hastings LaCroix) The family on the 1887 SW census and the family on the 1900 Fed census are absolutely the same folks. I'm just not so sure about that 1880. All help appreciated! :-) |
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Post by Vicky on Dec 12, 2008 18:21:43 GMT -5
I found John and Nancy on the 1900 Federal census. Joseph and Solomon still lived with them. These are 2 different John's. John and Nancy lived in Fremont in Cavalier County, ND. Is anyone familiar with that area?  |
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Post by hermin1 on Dec 12, 2008 20:47:26 GMT -5
vicky:
The John Longie who is listed as the bro -in-law to Hastings laCroix on the 1920 US Census for Marshall,SD was born @1884. in North Dakota. The Mary Longie is listed as mother-in-law to Hastings . So I am guessing that she ws John and margarite laCroix's mother.
The Langies of Big Stone Lake are not part of the langies/Longies that you are looking for..
____I found that Mary laBelle and Nancy nebraska were sisters.Are they any relation to your family?
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Post by hermin1 on Dec 12, 2008 21:56:16 GMT -5
vicky, were you able to make out what that plaque on the headstone at find a Grave Ssaid aobut that john Stone buried therein Noth dakota?
I found a John Langie born @1885, s/o John Langie Sr. and Juliana.
siblings wereClements, thomas and mary.
cenus was done at lake Traverse in 1890. John Jr. was @ 5 yrs oldat theime.
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Post by Vicky on Dec 12, 2008 22:35:24 GMT -5
vicky: The John Longie who is listed as the bro -in-law to Hastings laCroix on the 1920 US Census for Marshall,SD was born @1884. in North Dakota. The Mary Longie is listed as mother-in-law to Hastings . So I am guessing that she ws John and margarite laCroix's mother. The Langies of Big Stone Lake are not part of the langies/Longies that you are looking for.. ____I found that Mary laBelle and Nancy nebraska were sisters.Are they any relation to your family? OK, 1920- That John is John Jr. son of John and Jennie Langie. He's the brother of Maggie who married Hastings. The Jane here is Jennie, their mother. I think John Jr. married Nellie Crawford. I don't know who Nancy Nebraska was. I have always found that name interesting. |
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Post by Vicky on Dec 12, 2008 22:42:13 GMT -5
vicky, were you able to make out what that plaque on the headstone at find a Grave Ssaid aobut that john Stone buried therein Noth dakota? I found a John Langie born @1885, s/o John Langie Sr. and Juliana. siblings wereClements, thomas and mary. cenus was done at lake Traverse in 1890. John Jr. was @ 5 yrs oldat theime. There is no John Stone buried there as far as I know. There are only 4 or 5 markers there, some of which are- LaBelle, LaCroix and Langie. I will transcribe the rest of the stones when I go back this spring. John Langie died Oct. 14, 1906. That's a different John Langie.  |
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Post by Vicky on Dec 12, 2008 23:20:27 GMT -5
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Post by Jimmy on Dec 13, 2008 0:22:47 GMT -5
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Post by Vicky on Dec 13, 2008 0:29:13 GMT -5
Cool, Jimmy. Thanks!
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Post by Jimmy on Dec 13, 2008 0:30:48 GMT -5
Another Scout list from: Serial Set Vol. No. 3055, Session Vol. No.1 52nd Congress, 2nd Session, 1883 S.Exec.Doc. 18 Title: In the Senate of the United States. Letter from the Secretary of the Interior in response to Senate resolution of June 1, 1892, transmitting certain papers and giving information relative to certain contracts made with Indians, and the relation of agents or attorneys to the same. January 5, 1893. -- Referred to the Committee on Indian Affairs and the letter only ordered to be printed. John Langie listed as brother of Francois Langie. There is a Francois L'Angie listed as father of Moses L'Angie. www.scribd.com/doc/8931478/Scout-List |
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Post by Jimmy on Dec 13, 2008 0:35:28 GMT -5
1901 Agreement with Devil's Lake Indians, from: Serial Set Vol. No. 4322, Session Vol. No.55 57th Congress, 1st Session H.Doc. 98 Title: Agreement with the Indians of Devils Lake Reservation. Letter from the Secretary of the Interior, transmitting, with a report from the Commissioner of Indian Affairs, a draft of a bill ratifying an agreement with the Indians of Devils Lake Reservation. December 13, 1901. -- Referred to the Committee on Indian Affairs and ordered to be printed. This mentions several Langies. The John Langie listed is only 18, so obviously a different John, but thought it might be useful. www.scribd.com/doc/8931755/1901-Agreement-Devils-Lake-Indians |
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Post by Jimmy on Dec 13, 2008 0:39:13 GMT -5
Just to make it more confusing, I noticed there was a Langer on the above list. |
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Post by Vicky on Dec 13, 2008 11:13:26 GMT -5
Thanks Jimmy. On the scout's list, this appears to be the family of John who was married to Nancy.
I had no idea there were so many John Langie's!
My cousin emailed this morning with the following from an old letter she has- John Langie was born at Devil's Lake c. 1833. d. 1908 from Bright's disease, age 75. John was married once before Jennie, but she died. Jennie was from Canada and was half French and half Cree.
So his first wife dies and he remarries by the time he's 27. All of his 13 children appear to be by Jennie.
I cannot find this family before 1880 on any Federal census. I even tried searching by first name, "John". How insane is that?? :-)
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Post by hermin1 on Dec 13, 2008 20:43:58 GMT -5
Try the Canadian Archives Vickythanks much Jimmy and vicky for the documents.
I was told by ed 50 that there was a congressional Act passed in congress re. Paul Mazakutemani. she can't remember where she found it.
I would appreciate you rhelp in finding it. ineed a copy for a descendent of his.thanks much for your help.
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